Alexei Mishin - News, His coach...............

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rainisland
view post Posted on 28/11/2008, 21:33




I saw them together this summer, at Pinzolo (Italy).........
And then today I watched Grand Prix NHK Trophy of Japan.
Alexei Mishin was there with his pupil , Andrei Lutai.........11° classificated..........disaster..........and also Katarina Gerboldt.......11° classificated








Andrei Lutai & Alexei Mishin:







Edited by rainisland - 29/11/2008, 08:14
 
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rainisland
view post Posted on 30/11/2008, 21:32




And here they are Mishin's team at Pinzolo, june 2008 (without Evgeni)

http://picasaweb.google.it/adela.savic/Mis...ey=n3VdLZbzhao#

There is also Andrei Lutai and Katerina Getborldt.
 
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cekoni
view post Posted on 19/1/2009, 02:22




Perhaps here is the right place for Mishin's interviews ... :AddEmoticons04259.gif:
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http://www.allsport.ru/index.php?id=22877

17.01.2009.

Alexei Mishin: "Athletes strive to make the elements are not interesting and beautiful, but on the fourth level of complexity"

19-25 January in Helsinki will host European Championships in figure skating. At the 1999 world championships in the Finnish capital of Russia won the team gold, four out of four possible. It has been 10 years, much has changed. Not only as a result of our team, but also in the skating athletes, the set of elements, approaches to programming. The fifth season of figure skating applies «new» refereeing system. Their views on developments related to the new system, the Agency for sports information «All Sports» was Professor Alexei Mishin, to cultivate the three Olympic champions - Alexei Urmanov (1994), Alexei Yagudin (2002) and Evgeni Plushenko (2006).

«I would like to draw an analogy, which immediately rasstavit all points of the "and", and reveal my understanding of this issue - said Alexei Mishin.
- Once skaters competed in drawing figures. These were the "flowers", "landscapes", circular shape... Such competition was short, the judges have been very difficult to determine what is best - "roses or "tulips". The skaters have decided replacing "roses and "tulips" with circles. Athletes were competing, performing circles - two circle, three circle ... all are doing the same. The judges became much easier to assess the skills of each and determine the winner. But those tournaments over time abolished because it was boring to watch and uninteresting. The new system of refereeing all athletes seeking to make a revolution, spiral, steps... not interesting and beautiful, but on the fourth level of complexity. The level is quite hard - as a result of the program to program, we see a very similar combination of elements. Existing rules are aimed to provoke the figure skaters and coaches not to create "roses or "tulips", while demonstrating their skills in such a way that judges can easily compare it with others. So now so difficult to see these flowers. "Roses or "tulips" become rare. Around one daisies - white, with the same amount of petals. And the judges of the opportunity (which, though not always) possible to objectively evaluate and compare the skills of figure skaters. On the other hand, the revolution is now in general have become more diverse, and steps - more complex. Previously, steps was a purely formal enforcement of compulsory elements, dominated by simple steps. And, incidentally, the first who have to perform complex steps programs, was my pupil Evgeni Plushenko - already in the distant 1999, the program «Sabre Dance», on music Khachaturian ».

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http://www.allsport.ru/index.php?id=22986

18.01.2009.

Alexei Mishin: "You can not train for a medal, you need to work on skating"

Tomorrow, January 19, in Helsinki starts European Championships in figure skating. Among the Russian participants - Katarina Gerboldt and Andrei Lutay, two student of Professor Alexei Mishin's, brought up three Olympic champions - Alexei Urmanov (1994), Alexei Yagudin (2002) and Evgeni Plushenko (2006). On the preparation of his figure skaters Alexei Mishin told Sport Information Agency «All sports».

«I'll say this: training could take place in the same vein, a competition in another, - said Alexei Mishin, - It's that training took place well, and start turned out unsuccessful. And sometimes vice versa. Sport - a connection pedagogical skills and skills to coach an athlete seasoned success. I am often asked: «What kind of result you expect at this tournament?» You know, very wrong, that could make the coach - to prepare for a medal. When we worked with Zhenya Plushenko, we did everything to perfection. Trained jumps, improved technique, invented new and exciting steps, speed, performance. Worked for skating. At the medal can not be trained. This principle, I keep at work and with Andrei Lutali, and Katarina Gerboldt, and with the other guys. European Championship all set in its place ».
 
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cekoni
view post Posted on 21/1/2009, 04:55




http://smena.ru/news/2009/01/12/15236/

12 January 2009 @ 12:08 am

Alexei Mishin: “I work in Bethlehem”

Russia’s renowned coach Alexei Mishin has brought up a whole pleiad of great skaters, some of them Olympic champions. However, Alexei Nikolayevich doesn’t stop there. Currently, the master is preparing future stars for the Sochi’s 2014 Games.

“Yubileiny” mission

“Mishin’s group” is a familiar phrase. Who is now a part of it?

The right phrase is “the Mishins’ group”, because I coach alongside my spouse Tatiana Mishina. Svetlana Veretennikova, who came to use from Glazov together with Elizaveta Tuktamysheva, is also helping us. It was Svetlana who discovered this girl for figure skating. Other members of the group are my former student Oleg Tataurov, and choreographers Tatiana Rodionova and Irina Imanuilova.

Why do you continue to work in Yubileiny instead of moving to the figure skating Academy?

We work in Yubileiny, sort of the Bethlehem of our country’s figure skating. Jesus was born in Bethlehem, whereas Yubileiny’s ice was glorified by the skates of such celebrities as Ludmila Belousova and Oleg Protopopov, Elena Valova and Oleg Vasiliev, Elena Berezhnaya and Anton Sikharulidze, Alexei Urmanov, Alexei Yagudin, Evgeny Plushenko, and many others. Those are all Olympic champions whose careers started here, in Yubileiny, where, by the way, the whole of Petersburg coaching school grew up. That’s why both I and Tamara Moskvina decided to stay here. It would be a paramount error to give up this ice, sacred to figure skating, to large scale and essentially commercial skating, or even to other sports altogether. So I see a historical significance in our mission to keep the fire of figure skating burning at the Yubileiny.

Is this mission reasonable in light of preparing new Olympic champions?

Of course it is. Our slogan is “Sochi 2014”. Our students do indeed have good potential. Boys and girls who are now 12 or 13 are showing some of the best results in Petersburg. However, each sports school has very specific and obviously limited resources. Preparing an elite skater doesn’t come cheap to put it mildly. When I trained Urmanov, Yagudin and Plushenko, I paid for most training camps with either my money or my name. Nowadays, you can’t become champion using just one rink.

Why?

Because each champion is the product of international expertise. There are countless examples. Let’s take Lesha Yagudin’s athletic life. He spent three years in Ameica and then won the Olympics. Berezhnaya and Sikharulidze, too, forged their “gold” in New Jersey, whereas Tatiana Totmianina and Maxim Marin did so in Chicago. American figure skating school stands quite apart in today’s stage of development. It combines the best of what it always had with what Russian coaches who went across the ocean brought with them.

Kuznetsov fund

Do you mean that none of them would have won the Olympics without those American sojourns?

No, but without those sojourns as you called them, it would have been much more difficult. In this, I am very glad that our group gets help from the Mikhail Kuznetsov fund. Mikhail himself is an extraordinary person, formerly a member of the USSR fencing team. He has sponsored many competitions in his native sport. However, two years ago at the figure skating Russian Nationals, he spotted the talent of Lisa Tuktamysheva, which others have somehow missed. He called me and offered his help in preparing this athlete. Thanks to Mikhail Kuznetsov, we managed to conduct trainings in Italy, Germany, and Estonia, to make costumes, and to solve issues of additional nutrition. Note, please, that he took under his wing not a ready-made star, but a little girl with unclear potential, as Tuktamysheva only came tenth at the Nationals. Our combined efforts have quickly borne fruit. Lisa went from an ugly duckling to Russia’s silver medalist in Kazan, winning the free program cleanly.

Does the fund only help Elizaveta Tuktamysheva, or your other students as well?

Our whole group can thank Mikhail Vladislavovich. He is someone who doesn’t let die the good traditions of Russian generosity.

Low the age limit

Do you regret that the 12-year-old Tuktamysheva won’t be able to attend, say, the Europeans due to the current age restrictions?

I very much regret it. Though, I guess, we shouldn’t yet rush to senior Europeans and Worlds. However, if she had a legal opportunity go to Junior Worlds, she would have been sure to cause a commotion there.

Perhaps, taking current reality into consideration, age limits for skaters should be reconsidered?

I attended to ISU congress that decided to increase skaters’ age limits. It was a formalistic discussion without any real analysis of the current situation. An American team doctor talked about the negative effects of increased physical strain on the bodies of young girls. However, the content of junior and senior programs hardly differs at all. All the strains are determined by the coach, not the program! He defines the load. At 13, girls show fairly adult skating. However, 19-year-olds can compete as juniors. It’s nonsense.

All right, what would you make the age limit?

In Juniors, it should be 11 or 12 for girls, and 12 or 13 for boys. For seniors, it should be 14.

Forget the shows

Previously, you often talked about the talent of Artur Gachinsky. To what extent has it ultimately shown itself?

There is no “ultimate”! Artur is still very talented. However, he is going through a growth spurt. His bone mass has increased by 10 kilograms in the last year and a half. His muscle mass hasn’t kept up. It will be hard for him to progress further until he achieves a bone/ muscle balance. He is, though, getting close.

Would you agree that Gachinsky’s skating is reminiscent of Plushenko’s?

I don’t see a problem here. Most young skaters imitate the stars. That’s natural.

Speaking of Plushenko. Does he keep in touch?

We have recently talked. He has again reiterated that he is ready to resume his sports career, and compete at the Vancouver Olympics. We agreed to meet in Helsinki at the Europeans to discuss it. I can only say one thing – if Zhenya really wants to come back, he must forget his show business, or at least 90 percent of his projects.


Daniil ORLOVSKY
 
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cekoni
view post Posted on 25/1/2009, 03:10




2009 European Championships Helsinki, Finland - January

Mishin and Katarina Gerboldt during SP....

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Places that are taken Mishin's skaters:
7 Andrei LUTAI
6 Katarina GERBOLDT
 
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lucymei
view post Posted on 25/1/2009, 12:33




poor mishin not even a medal :36_20_1.gif:
 
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cekoni
view post Posted on 30/1/2009, 01:30




Didier Gailhaguet (president of the French federation of ice sports) has given an interview about Joubert's recent results at Euros to the Nouvelle Republique newspaper.
http://www.lanouvellerepublique.fr/dossier...o=Z&num=1090529

(26/01/2009)
Gailhaguet rassuré par le titre de Joubert

- translation fra=eng:
http://www.goldenskate.com/forum/showthrea...b409323&t=26548

.... Will he go to the OG with the same team and the same coach ?

"There are rumors about changes and modifications of his usual staff. Those are rumors. What is true is that Brian and his coach accept without hesitation the fact that several consultants, who will be structured around him to help him with his weaknesses and to maintain his strong points, will be more present and diverse, whether in Poitiers, whether abroad (Plushenko's russian coach has been contacted, he's saving his answer until he gets the answer about Plushenko's come back).
The goal is that Brian arrives in the best conditions, technical, artistical and psychological, on the D day....
 
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rainisland
view post Posted on 30/1/2009, 10:51




Bizzare.............poor Brian, he must wait for Evgeni's answer to know if Mishin will teach him how to jump.......
This fact remember me the story of Lambiel and the Mishin summer camp at Mittenwald, last summer.
We knew, during the camp at Pinzolo, that Lambiel asked to train with Mishin at Mittenwald, he was on the list of the skaters, I saw it with my own eyes, but then, ufficialy, the rumors said that it's not true, that Lambiel changed his idea and he left to USA ( and he really did it).
But, the true is that Evgeni didn't want to train together with his maggior competitor, have the same coach - I think he's right.
So the story about Brian's training with Mishin is........quite bizzare.....
Well, let's see.
 
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Emy71
view post Posted on 30/1/2009, 13:01




This has not been a good behavior from Evgeny and Mishin.No? :AddEmoticons04259.gif:
 
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rainisland
view post Posted on 30/1/2009, 13:19




No, it's correct.
or better say: Evgeni CAN'T TRAINING with his maggior competitors, can you imagine the level of mentaly stress to be at the same ice rink with your rival?
At these levels (World Championship, OG) this is not possible for an athlete.
Specialy not for Evgeni who needs a total concentration for him self.
His total concentration and total concentration of his coach.
If Evgeni will decide to not go to the competition, than Mishin canm take anybody, even Jaubert, why not?
But if Evgeni decides to compeete than there is no place to anybody else.
Specially for Jaubert - you maybe don't know, but between these two beautiful guys there is not a friendship at all........
The brothers Uspenski: Aleksander has got Kudryavtseva Marina Grigorievna as a coach, and his brother Vladimir has got Viktor Kudriavtsev......so, two brothers, two different coachs......Think about this.......
 
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Emy71
view post Posted on 30/1/2009, 13:30




Yes I know the rivalry between Evgeny and Brian..
About the other skaters and their coaches, this seems really a battle.... or a War!!
 
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lucymei
view post Posted on 30/1/2009, 15:47




for Jaubert I SEE HARD evgeni i will never surrender :AddEmoticons04259.gif:
 
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cekoni
view post Posted on 31/1/2009, 02:08




http://allsport.ru/index.php?id=23505
30.01.2009, Saransk

Junior Figure Skating Championship of Russia 2009

Girls - final results

1. Adelina Sotnikova (Moscow) – 170,28
2. Elizaveta Tuktamisheva (St. Petersburg) – 155,14
3. Oksana Gozeva – 153,58


Boys - after Short Program...

1. Artem Grigorev Артем Григорьев (Moscow) – 72,73
2. Arthur Gachinskiy (St. Petersburg) – 71,81
3. Ivan Bariev (Moscow) – 70,58
 
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rainisland
view post Posted on 31/1/2009, 16:48




Little Artur will be a future Plushy..........
Elisabeta is some kind of wonder girl, I saw her does triple axel IN PALESTRA palestra, two years ago!!!! And now she's 12.
 
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cekoni
view post Posted on 31/1/2009, 23:18




QUOTE (cekoni @ 31/1/2009, 02:08)
http://allsport.ru/index.php?id=23505
30.01.2009, Saransk

Junior Figure Skating Championship of Russia 2009
...
Boys - after Short Program...

1. Artem Grigorev Артем Григорьев (Moscow) – 72,73
2. Arthur Gachinskiy (St. Petersburg) – 71,81
3. Ivan Bariev (Moscow) – 70,58

http://allsport.ru/index.php?id=23534
31.01.2009 - Saransk, Republic of Mordovia, Russia

Boys - final results

1. Ivan Bariev (Moscow) – 211,38
2. Arthur Gachinskiy (St. Petersburg) – 197,33
3. Artem Grigorev (Moscow) – 185,80
 
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